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STORY PUZZLE: The Three Hues

Here is a story puzzle. I did not make up the puzzle, but I made it fit in Pixie Hollow.

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"Hi Winsome!"
"Hi Bonny!"

Winsome the light-talent fairy gave Bonny a peculiar-awkward-goofy smile. Bonny thought something was up, because Winsome's face never concealed much of her inner thoughts. Right now it was glowing with playfulness.

"Bonny, I have a puzzle for you."
"OK, what is it?"

"See those three dye bottles on my shelf?"

"Sure I do. Strawberry Red, Electric Purple, and Bluejay Blue."

"OK well, close your eyes."

Bonny closed her eyes.

"I'm going to have you guess which one I am holding behind my back."

Bonny heard a soft wooden scraping, and two gentle thumps of glass on wood. The thump was a little different sound for each and Bonny wondered if she could remember which bottle was more full and what sound that might make, but then she decided that might be cheating and tried to put that out of her head. Then she heard a soft wooden scraping again, and she was sure that it was the sound of a drawer being closed.

"Open your eyes."

"Do I guess now?"

"No, not yet. You can ask me a question for a hint. But only ask me one question. And I can only answer YES, NO, or I DON'T KNOW."

- - -

Now little sparkles, can you suggest a shimmerific question that will tell Bonny exactly what dye bottle Winsome is holding behind her back?

And remember, Winsome is only going to answer YES, NO, or I DON'T KNOW.

I will tell an answer later, but I hope to see your suggestions here, (maybe you can use spoiler tags, like this This is how a spoiler looks. )

The End

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I posted one possible solution below. See reply 14.
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Oh wow, you really made me think about this one!
Umm.. I'll have to get back to you with a guess. I seem to be thinking too much into it - that is never a good sign when solving riddles.
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Well, I have absolutely no idea.
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Hues Incorporation

Someone in my family advised me to change "Magenta" to "Purple," saying that would make it a little easier.
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So it has something to do with the hues of the dyes.. maybe?
I am stumped.. if I had to guess, I'd ask
Spoiler for Question:
"Is the color that you are holding found on the very edge of a rainbow?" (She's a light-talent, she's bound to know)
and then flip a coin.
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Maybe... um...
Spoiler for Spoiler:
What is the first letter of the dye color behind your back?

...its all I can think of.

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Hmm...

Spoiler for My guess:
''Is it bright or dark?''
Maybe because Bluejay Blue may seem the darkest color, and if Bonny said it was dark, Winsome would know. I believe Strawberry Red would be a bit medium colored.


Not the best guess, I guess.
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Encouragement for the guessers!

You guys are great but not quite there!

Popcorn, the answer has to be YES, NO, or I DON'T KNOW.

Onionleaf and Cornflower, your questions would work one third of the time. So far, so good. But what question would work all the time?
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Hmmm...


"Did you take more dyes from the drawer? The other colors of the rainbow?"
Tricky question.
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Spoiler for My Answer:
Is the dye not one of which you showed me?


I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong... Great puzzle!
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ahh, this is a tricky one!

Spoiler for guess:
My guess would be something like

"If you mix the colors that aren't behind your back, will you get a completely new color?"

Though I do wonder if the possible answer I DON'T KNOW may have something to do with it...
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Though I do wonder if the possible answer I DON'T KNOW may have something to do with it...
That was what I was thinking about for a really long time, because if there are three dyes and three possible answers, then each one of her answers could pinpoint to the correct dye bottle. But then again Bonny noticed that one dye bottle has less dye than the other, so if you mix them together it wouldn't be a perfect color mix..

I'll try a second time, but I don't think I have made much progress.

Spoiler for 2nd guess:
"If you mix the two dyes that you put away, will it create a warm color?" (as opposed to cold)

If she answers YES, then the dye bottle is Blue, if she answers NO, then it is Red, and if she answers I DON'T KNOW, then it is Purple.
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Well, I thought carefully about it, and now I think I have a guess! One that's valid this time.
Could it be...
Spoiler for Answer?:
"Is it the color of the other two dyes mixed?"

Red and blue can be mixed to make purple. If those were the two dye bottles mixed, (aka, Winsome answers "yes"), the dye bottle behind her back would have to be purple. But even if Winsome answers "no", then Bonny will still have a 50/50 chance of guessing the right dye bottle.

This is a really tricky question!
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Hmmm...


"Did you take more dyes from the drawer? The other colors of the rainbow?"
Tricky question.
Yikes! That wouldn't be fair to Bonnie.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazel Brightsparkle View Post
Spoiler for My Answer:
Is the dye not one of which you showed me?


I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong... Great puzzle!
Winsome is being tricky, but that would be TOO tricky.

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ahh, this is a tricky one!

Spoiler for guess:
My guess would be something like

"If you mix the colors that aren't behind your back, will you get a completely new color?"

Though I do wonder if the possible answer I DON'T KNOW may have something to do with it...
Wouldn't the answer be YES in two cases? You're on the right track to think about using more than one color in your answer.

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That was what I was thinking about for a really long time, because if there are three dyes and three possible answers, then each one of her answers could pinpoint to the correct dye bottle.
That's exactly right, so far.

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But then again Bonny noticed that one dye bottle has less dye than the other, so if you mix them together it wouldn't be a perfect color mix..
When I mentioned Bonnie noticing the sound and wondering if that might give it away, I was sneaking in a lesson. Whenever you (or Winsome) make an experiment, it's important to make sure that you don't give away the answer some other way. And I was making the point that it is difficult to make sure that some information isn't leaking out accidentally. I'm sorry now that it distracted some of you fairies from the main point of the puzzle.

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I'll try a second time, but I don't think I have made much progress.

Spoiler for 2nd guess:
"If you mix the two dyes that you put away, will it create a warm color?" (as opposed to cold)

If she answers YES, then the dye bottle is Blue, if she answers NO, then it is Red, and if she answers I DON'T KNOW, then it is Purple.
You may have solved this riddle a new way! But please help me understand why purple isn't a /somewhat/ warm color?

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Well, I thought carefully about it, and now I think I have a guess! One that's valid this time.
Could it be...
Spoiler for Answer?:
"Is it the color of the other two dyes mixed?"

Red and blue can be mixed to make purple. If those were the two dye bottles mixed, (aka, Winsome answers "yes"), the dye bottle behind her back would have to be purple. But even if Winsome answers "no", then Bonny will still have a 50/50 chance of guessing the right dye bottle.

This is a really tricky question!
Your question is pretty good, and it would give the exact answer if Winsome is holding purple, just as you said. But Winsome is hoping Bonnie will ask a question that gives the exact answer no matter what color she is holding. So your question is right one third of the time.

- - - - -

OK. You guys ready? Here is . . .

ONE POSSIBLE SOLUTION

Spoiler for The Reveal!:
"OK Winsome, If I am thinking of a dye bottle that has at least some blue hue to it, is the dye bottle you have redder than the dye I am thinking of?"

If Winsome is holding Bluejay Blue, Winsome must answer NO.
If Winsome is holding Electric Purple, Winsome must answer I DON'T KNOW.
If Winsome is holding Strawberry Red, Winsome must answer YES.


I hope you enjoyed this puzzle!

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Ooh, so sneaky! I would have to say that it would have taken a lot more thinking (and possibly clues) for me to be able to come to that solution. I applaud anyone who is/was able to solve this riddle! I suppose such riddles are easier to think about when you begin asking yourself questions starting with If.

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You may have solved this riddle a new way! But please help me understand why purple isn't a /somewhat/ warm color?
Haha, well see, you yourself started asking about it, so if Winsome becomes confused but can only answer Yes, No or I Don't Know, then she would probably choose the last option.
Sorry, I was just trying to be witty. Solving a riddle can't be more funnier than when you confuse the one who was asking you for the solution.

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When I mentioned Bonnie noticing the sound and wondering if that might give it away, I was sneaking in a lesson. Whenever you (or Winsome) make an experiment, it's important to make sure that you don't give away the answer some other way. And I was making the point that it is difficult to make sure that some information isn't leaking out accidentally. I'm sorry now that it distracted some of you fairies from the main point of the puzzle.
Not to worry, it was still a good lesson for thinking into the extra details. Plenty of riddles include unnecessary information in order to lure people off the scent.

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I very much enjoyed thinking over this puzzle! Thanks so much Stormy!
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